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      <title>Mental Health in the Pork Industry: Redefining Grit with Maddison Caldwell</title>
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        In the stock show world, Maddison Caldwell was the blueprint of a firstborn overachiever: disciplined, organized and a perfectionist. But while she thrived in the black-and-white rules of life, the “gray areas” nearly cost her everything.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In college, she took a mandatory psychology class and realized she related to many of the topics they talked about. Caldwell sought help from her primary care physician, not knowing at the time that specialists existed for what she was feeling.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After months of increasing dosages, she reached a medical ceiling. When her doctor told her it was the maximum dose and ‘sent her on her way,’ she felt she had run out of options. Within five months, she attempted to end her life twice.&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;Private Pain to Public Hope&lt;/h2&gt;
    
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        , her story stopped being just hers. It became a shared common ground for others fighting silent battles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“As soon as the article came out, it was like the floodgates opened,” she says. “All of a sudden, complete strangers – even people who weren’t involved with agriculture – of all ages from across the country reached out.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although it wasn’t easy to have the most painful moments of her life become table conversation, she doesn’t regret the decision to share it with others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“This story came out right around the time I was starting my career,” Caldwell says. “I was reporting to an executive at a large company, and one of his coworkers on the executive team asked him, ‘Have you Googled her?’”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        She will never forget when he asked her about it and the conversation that followed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“He was quite a bit older than I am, and from a generation that didn’t talk about these things,” Caldwell adds. “It was a really uncomfortable and really hard conversation.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But she believes those conversations are more important than ever.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Doing things like that bring us one step closer,” Caldwell says. “I hope I never lose the drive to keep being uncomfortable in order to help people.”&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;Redefining Grit in Agriculture&lt;/h2&gt;
    
        Agriculture is making progress when it comes to talking about mental health and recognizing the importance of conversation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I don’t think we are great at sitting in that uncomfortable state,” she says. “We want to fix it and move on, or minimize it, or work harder and stay busy doing anything that allows us to avoid facing the reality of it.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She believes it’s time to redefine “grit” in agriculture.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“In my opinion, grit means being honest with ourselves,” Caldwell explains. “I think it means coming to the realization that we need to reach out for help sometimes. It’s about the courage to be vulnerable.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        She also challenges the industry to stop equating grit with silence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“You cannot pour from an empty cup,” she warns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In an industry that prizes working until the job is done, Caldwell says the ultimate display of grit is the courage to admit when you’re running on empty.&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;Warning Signs&lt;/h2&gt;
    
        With one in five U.S. adults facing mental health conditions and one in five high school students considering suicide, Caldwell isn’t shy about offering advice now.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “One of the things I did was bury myself in work, in being productive, in not taking any time to just stop and ‘smell the roses,’” Caldwell says. “If you notice people withdrawing from activities that they would have once loved, pay attention. If they’re exhausted all the time, if they’re not talking as much, if they use the words ‘I’m fine’ all too often, or if they are pouring so much into other people at their own expense, those could be signs.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    
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        &lt;br&gt;Looking back, she admits it’s hard to recognize herself during those years. Her mindset is much different now. She challenges people to stop shying away from asking hard questions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“People often think if you say the word suicide, it’s going to put that idea in someone’s mind,” Caldwell says. “Let me be clear that this thought was already in my head when I was struggling. I don’t know what would have happened if someone just blankly asked me if I was thinking about suicide, because that’s not something people talk about.”&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;Healing Is Not a Straight Line&lt;/h2&gt;
    
        Today, Caldwell lives by a quote she read early in her recovery process: “When we recover loudly, we keep others from dying quietly.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I will shout my story to the rooftops if it means that one person feels less alone in how they’re feeling,” she says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Healing looks different for everyone, and everyone needs different tools, Caldwell explains. She compares it to going to Starbucks to get a cup of coffee and then realizing you don’t like it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Does it mean that you’re going to stop going to Starbucks altogether, or, even worse, stop drinking coffee altogether?” she says. “Absolutely not. Sometimes you just need to go to different places or add in a little sugar here and there based on personal preference. I feel like my healing journey is like that.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Caldwell says the “gray areas” are still terrifying at times. But she’s learned that true bravery is figuring out how to thrive even when a clear plan isn’t visible. Healing hasn’t removed the stressors in her life, but it has increased her capacity to handle them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one thing that has changed in the past six years is her willingness to have uncomfortable conversations and ask hard questions. She is grateful for the family, friends and professionals that support her in doing this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Transparency looks different now,” she says. “I can text my mom to just say, ‘It’s not a good day today.’ That’s something I never would have done because I didn’t feel comfortable saying that.”&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;Stay Beyond the Crisis&lt;/h2&gt;
    
        Her message to farm families is simple: don’t just show up for the crisis; show up for the recovery.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Stay to see them thrive,” Caldwell says. “Stay to hear people like my mom say that ‘the light has returned’ in their eyes.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        On the sixth anniversary of being alive after her last suicide attempt, Caldwell lit a candle and blew it out surrounded by her inner circle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“As I looked around at the simplest of things, I was so grateful,” she says. “I was flooded with all the beautiful moments I have had since that time that I would have missed out on.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Discover more about Caldwell’s journey – the challenges that would have wrecked her before, the most unexpected people who helped her recover and the joy she finds in her career today – by 
    
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        You walk into a crowded room of people you don’t know. Everyone is laughing and talking in their groups. It would be much easier to walk right back out, but you are there to represent a group with the mission of meeting people and making connections. So, you take your next step forward. But now what?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For some people, this is what nightmares are made of. For 
    
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        , this is what she lives to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Jennifer is excellent at building relationships with people,” says Josh Maschhoff, president of the Illinois Pork Producers Association. “She can walk into a room where she might not know anybody and quickly make introductions and connections with those people. And most importantly, she can remember their name, and she can do it with a lot of people.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maschhoff admits he often finds himself in a room with a lot of people, and he can’t remember their names.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Whether it’s fellow producers or members of the legislature, the closer I can put myself to Jennifer Tirey, the better off I will be,” he says. “I know I’ve got a resource that can help pull me along when I’m struggling because she can remember all of those people.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He says her ability to remember the details about someone’s personal life and truly make a connection with them makes her unique.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        How do you develop a superpower like this? Tirey admits it does take work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“You just can’t go into a room and know a lot of people’s names without putting a lot of work into it,” she says. “I go back to the very first meeting that I had with Pork Producers. I’d only been on the job for less than a week, and they had already scheduled a regional meeting in Bloomington. I spent the entire car ride — because someone else was driving — memorizing the names of the individuals that were going to be there because I wanted the producers to know that I care and want to know them.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to truly connect with people and build a relationship, you have to be willing to work at it. Before every event, Tirey devotes time to reading over the list of who will be there and looks up photos to try to memorize faces.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I’m always learning and trying to sharpen that skill,” she says. “I think that’s a valuable asset to have within agriculture. At the end of the day, agriculture is a really small community, and you cross paths a lot. You need each other to be successful.”&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h2&gt;How to Connect and Be Remembered in Any Room&lt;/h2&gt;
    
        Now, back to the crowded room. Before you enter, adopt a mindset that you are there to learn and support others, not just “work the room.” Here are a few tips to help you connect with the crowd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Scan The Room.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you enter the room, use soft eye contact as you scan the room. Don’t stare, but instead do a “sweeping gaze.” According to the 
    
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        , a sweeping gaze is a slow, methodical look around the room. Start the gaze the moment you enter a room by looking to your left then slowly sweeping across the room until you find your opening or where you want to go. Then, make longer eye contact there. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It’s easier to make connections when you give yourself the outward look that you want to meet people,” Tirey says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. Project Confidence.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember to smile and stand tall to project confidence as you head toward where you want to go. If you don’t feel confident, don’t worry because you aren’t alone, says 
    
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        .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Even when you don’t feel confident, act confident. It will change your entire mindset,” Sherman says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. Make Direct Eye Contact And Have a Firm Handshake.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tirey says the best advice she has to offer when connecting with people is to start with direct eye contact. Let the person you are talking to know they have your full attention.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“In addition to eye contact, a really firm handshake to a person that you’ve never met gives a good impression,” she adds. “It also keeps you top of mind with them.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. Listen.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Really taking a moment to listen to who they are and what they have to say is key,” Tirey says. “I think doing this gives me a chance to internally set myself and get prepared for meeting somebody new. It allows you to learn about the person you’re trying to get to know without any ulterior motive.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She believes taking a pause and letting people share what they want to share first is a great way to understand where they are coming from, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;5. Offer Value.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tirey says she strives to be a straight shooter and appreciates that when meeting others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Life moves fast, and I would much rather cut to the chase.” Tirey says. “I love making connections and catching up with people, but there are things that must be done, too. I appreciate directness and constructive criticism because that makes me a better person.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have a relevant idea or suggestion, be ready to share it succinctly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“One thing that works like magic is creating a memorable moment,” according to 
    
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        . “Think about ways you can add value right in the moment. Maybe you overhear someone mention a challenge they are facing, and you can recommend a solution or introduce them to someone you know. That kind of value sticks.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Maya Angelou said: “People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did. People will never forget how you made them feel.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Learn more about Tirey in the latest episode of The PORK Podcast.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        At 8 cents a pound, pigs weren’t worth much when Todd Wiley formed Interstate Swine LLC with his dad in 1998. Nobody wanted weaned pigs. Facilities quickly became available as people left the pork industry. With a sincere desire to make a living raising pigs on his family’s farm, Wiley stepped out in faith. Nearly 30 years later, this multi-generational farming endeavor in eastern Iowa has survived some of the toughest times and some of the best times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe that’s why Wiley has taken a unique approach to bringing the third generation back to the farm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“There’s no doubt that family is important to Todd,” says Pat McGonegle, CEO of the Iowa Pork Producers Association. “He puts family first, and the farm is a part of that discussion. He manages his family members that are part of that farm in a real professional way, but also with an eye towards the legacy that he and Denise want to leave on their farm.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    
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        Growing up, Wiley’s parents talked about succession planning often with their three sons. The concept of planning for the generational transfer of the family farm came naturally to Wiley.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“When we started Interstate Swine, we needed to hire employees,” he says. “One of the things I was conscientious about was making sure the employment opportunity within our business would be conducive to our children filling those roles.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        From the beginning, Wiley instituted health insurance plans, matching IRA funds, paid time off, paid vacation, and other benefits that employees would typically look for when securing a job.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I constantly asked myself if this would this be good for my kids someday?” he says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wiley and his wife, Denise, have four kids: Drew, a Kansas State University animal science graduate and former K-State Football defensive tackle; Isaac, an Iowa State University agribusiness graduate now employed with Ever.Ag; Emma, owner of Auntie Em’s - Event Florist and attended Des Moines Area Community College; and Joshua, a junior at Iowa State University in animal science.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2017-2018, the Wileys doubled their sow farm to create more opportunities for the children to have a place on the family farm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It was a fairly tedious process – not only from a business standpoint, but about what the next generation was going to do,” he says. “They were all too young back then, and there was no way I could ask them for any sort of commitment to our business. But I did ask a lot of professionals. I remember asking our accountant specifically, ‘In your experience, what is the likelihood of a farm family having the next generation be involved, providing you have a viable business?’”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The accountant’s response was, “It’s pretty high.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Denise and I knew we needed to have some economies of scale,” Wiley explains. “There’s not much point in succession planning, if there’s nothing to succeed to or succeed with. We were mindful of that when we moved forward. Now, we have room for additional people, not only for labor, but also in management where we can utilize their skills.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;h3&gt;&lt;b&gt;No Yellowstone Drama Here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
    
        As a family, it is easy to recognize each other’s strengths as well as quirks, he points out. But he wanted a better way to evaluate his children’s strengths and weaknesses, as well as interests, on the farm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I remember when a successful family in eastern Iowa, with a number of businesses, built a feed mill and elevator,” Wiley shares. “The father of this family passed away unexpectedly. Come to find out, nobody in the family had any interest in this feed mill and elevator, so they end up selling it.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This hit Wiley hard. What would his kids say about where their farm was investing capital? That sparked the construction of a succession planning instrument for the Wiley family.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “The first page of the instrument (an Excel document) started two years ago with a list of 35 jobs that need to be done on our farm,” Wiley says. “Most of them are pig related, but we do crop farm some. It was pretty much everything I was doing in a spreadsheet.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Each of their children (and one daughter in-law at the time) was asked to rate those 35 jobs from one to five under this scenario: It’s 2033 and Todd and Denise are serving in an advisory role only. You choose to be an active employee of the family businesses. Please answer by circling the corresponding number that best describes your interest in the listed activity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It was interesting to see who had interest in what, but it also told us pretty clearly where we needed to go in the future if we wanted our children involved in our business,” Wiley says. “Initially, I think they saw it as a fun activity, just another of Dad’s crazy ideas. But I learned a lot.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This past summer, the family completed the exercise again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I needed to see if the kids were drifting in their interest,” he says. “In one case, there was significant movement in what one of our kids wanted to do. It surprised me to be truthful about it. In the other three cases, they held true to what they thought two years previous. But bear in mind, our youngest was a freshman in college two years ago and a lot can change in college.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wiley emphasizes that nobody is required to come back and be involved in the operation. He says there are a million ways to make a living out there and he wants his kids to pursue their dreams. In the version his family filled out in the summer of 2025, he added a second page with 45 statements.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“If you’re going to work with people in a business and a family in any organization, even if you’re not related, you need to have some idea of where they’re coming from,” Wiley says. “On the second page of statements, they were asked to rank their level of agreement with the statement.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, one of the statements was: No matter what I may think of a family member’s job performance, I’ll always have their back publicly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“If you’ve ever watched Yellowstone, that show creeped me out,” Wiley says. “When I saw the family dynamic portrayed, it made me uncomfortable. We can have our disagreements. But, as a family, you better have each other’s backs out in the community, especially in the business we’re in.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    
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        This instrument has been helpful for the Wileys in many ways as they prepare to transfer more of the farm to their children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It sheds light on areas where their belief system parallels ours,” he says. “We have a definite place of emphasis now. Our children have a pig feeding business called Fourth Gen Hogs LLC, where they’re each 20% owners, Denise is a 10% owner, and I’m a 10% owner. It has been a great exercise in giving them the responsibility of ownership.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He says the timing mirrors the situation he was in when Interstate Swine was formed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“They got in about a year ago when it was pretty doom and gloom. We went to the bank with this idea, and they’re like, ‘You want to do what?’”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He believes this business venture will be the vehicle for he and his wife to exit pig ownership as their children get into ownership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Uncle Sam would have his way with us if we sold out all at once,” Wiley says. “But if we can gradually exit individual barns or individual parts of our production flow and have them enter into it, that’s a fairly nice segue for us to get out and them to get in.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wiley shares more about his mini adventure raising rabbits, opportunities for talented young people back on the farm and the message he hopes pork producers hear right now and more on The PORK Podcast. You can 
    
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      <title>The Truth About Stock Show Moms</title>
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        Stock show moms can’t be put in a box. From the mom who can feed barrows better than anyone in the barn to the mom who always has the best snacks for the kids, and from the mom who takes all the pictures to the mom who listens to everyone’s problems, it takes all kinds to make the show go on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Emily Spray, a stock show mom of three from Indiana, says there is no shortage of lessons learned at stock shows. One of the most valuable she has learned from being a stock show mom is humility. If it’s not the animals, it’s the kids who humble you, she laughs.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        &lt;div class="Figure-content"&gt;&lt;figcaption class="Figure-caption"&gt;The Spray family and friends at the 2024 Indiana State Fair.&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;div class="Figure-credit"&gt;(Lindsay Hanewich)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
    
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        “The other day I saw a picture of a house with a long row of hydrangea bushes,” Spray says. “The owner was discouraged because there was only one bloom on that whole row of bushes. The owner said, ‘I’ve been fertilizing them the same way. I’ve been watering them the same way. They’ve all been tended to the same way. But I’m only getting one bloom on that bush.’”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Spray relates this to showing livestock and raising kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“We’re not just going to dig out all the bushes and plant something else,” Spray says. “We’re going to keep at it. We’re going to keep going. Sometimes when we’ve got these kids who have big goals, there’s a lot of stress, competitiveness and goals being made. You’re doing the right things. You’re walking them all the same, feeding them all the same, but you’re not getting those blooms.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Motherhood is about teaching kids to keep doing the next right thing. And someday, Spray adds, they might have more blooms on all those bushes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Keeping things in perspective is a valuable lesson,” she says. “Being able to change, adapt and edit as you go is important because there’s not always one right answer.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        &lt;div class="Figure-content"&gt;&lt;figcaption class="Figure-caption"&gt;“Her flexibility with an ever changing and always busy schedule is probably her super power,” Makayla Spray (r) says about her mom Emily (l).&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;div class="Figure-credit"&gt;(Jennifer Shike)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
    
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        &lt;b&gt;Sometimes It’s Not Your Turn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Disappointments inevitably come when goals aren’t reached or hard things happen. Spray recalls a story about one of their best Hampshire gilts before the state fair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I’ll never forget when my husband Craig and daughter Makayla walked in from the barn,” she says. “I could tell there was something wrong.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The gilt had shucked her hair. Because she had a thin belt to begin with, they knew the gilt would likely not be eligible to show as a Hampshire according to breed requirements.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    
        &lt;div class="BlockQuote"&gt;“That led to some hard conversations about the right thing to do. Ultimately, we’re in this industry to teach our kids the right things to do. We had to sit down and say, ‘Okay, if this happens, this is how we’re going to handle it.’”
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        During breed checks, the gilt didn’t pass. As she and Makayla walked out of the ring, Spray says she had to initiate another conversation to shift both of their perspectives.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “That week there was a family who had some teenagers coming to the state fair when they were in an awful wreck on the interstate,” Spray says. “There we were complaining we weren’t passing a breed check, but there was another family just down the road fighting for their life in the hospital. As hard as it was to say, ‘Okay, this is what we really wanted,’ we had to think about keeping the big things the big things.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes it’s your turn, and sometimes it’s not, Spray says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“In that moment it wasn’t Makayla’s turn,” she says. “Instead, she had a front row seat to the Hampshire show. It wasn’t from the middle of the ring like she wanted, but she sat in the front row and watched the entire show. Those are the moments that put that drive and desire in your heart – being so close to getting that goal – to come back and try again.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Stop Comparing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;New York Times bestselling author Shauna Niequist says, “You can compare and you can connect, but you cannot do both.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Spray believes one of the biggest challenges parents face right now are social media highlight reels.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“So many of our kids are seeing all the wins, all the kids who are having success at all the shows across the nation,” she says. “That wasn’t a thing when we were kids. We saw who won the open show when we were there that day in living color. These kids are constantly seeing everyone’s highlight reel, so it’s easy for them in that moment to stop and compare themselves.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        Spray wants to challenge people – kids and parents alike – to reframe that moment to connection instead.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“The best way to stop comparing is to find ways to connect,” she says. “I think there’s a lot of disconnect when it comes to being friends on social media. Have you ever had a conversation with that person? Do you know anything more than what you’re seeing on a screen about that person? How can you really get to know them?”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A few years ago, she had a t-shirt made for state fair that said, “You can’t compete with me.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“When you read that first line, you think, ‘Oh, well, that’s kind of proud.’ But the second line said, ‘I want you to win, too.’ When I wore that shirt, it confused a lot of people,” Spray says.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She remembers one dad who was particularly bothered by her shirt. He finally came up at the end of the day and asked her about it.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “He said, ‘What do you mean? You don’t want your kid to win?’ I said, ‘Absolutely, I want my kid to win. But if you look at any other kid in this barn, it’s not like they just threw their pig on the trailer and decided to come to a show,” she says. “All of these kids have put in so many hours of work. And you know what? If your kid gets to win today, I’m going to clap for them, and I’m going to be happy for them.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Keep the Big Things Big&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;The show barn is filled with people who share many common interests. It’s where true friendships are forged. For Spray, it’s worth remembering that as she strives to keep the big things big and the little things little.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“What are your big things? What is most important for you as a family?” she asks. “Is it winning a banner? Is it developing character? Is it enjoying what you’re doing? I think it looks different for every family, but taking that time to decide what means the most for your family is key to not letting all the other stuff get in the way.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        Even though it’s easy to judge others by what you see on the outside, Spray says the truth is that no mom has it all figured out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Look for that mom who’s in the season ahead of you,” she says. “Invite her to coffee and talk with her about the things she’s going through. That has been valuable for me, because when you’re in the thick of it – when you’re in the weeds and you can’t see beyond one day to the next – it’s helpful to have somebody who’s already paved that path ahead of you.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Listen to The PORK Podcast to find out how Spray’s social media persona, The Funny Fair Mom, came to be, why she chooses to redirect when life gets stressful, and helpful hacks every show family needs to know before state fair season. 
    
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        What will the champions in the show ring look like in five years? That’s a question Dan Hoge, one of the winningest livestock judging coaches in history, thinks about constantly. Trends come and trends go. It’s not easy to stay relevant while being nimble enough to see what’s coming and evolve to get there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Hoge’s ability to do just that as a coach, judge and breeder for decades is what sets him apart from others, says Blake Bloomberg, professor and head livestock judging team coach at Black Hawk College East Campus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Dan has been at the top of his profession for over 50 years, and is still sought after for his input,” Bloomberg adds. “His impact on his students and his influence beyond the classroom is undeniable.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hoge says his interest and passion in the livestock industry keeps him constantly learning and searching for what’s next. He’s an avid scholar – always reading about livestock, studying photos of champions and talking about trends in the industry with people he admires.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “The miles never made any difference to me,” Hoge says. “If there was a symposium going on or if Dr. Harlan Ritchie was speaking about the cattle industry, I found a way to be there. I pay attention to what legendary breeders like Chuck Olson and Earl Cain are doing in the swine industry. Of course, there are always new breeders coming along who are going to dictate, to a necessary extent, where the industry will go next.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the end of the day, good livestock will always be in vogue, he says. There will be changes in priorities. Trends will shift. But the best stockmen are open-minded and always looking to see what is coming in the future. He believes the ability to evaluate livestock and read differences in phenotype is essential to it all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;What Coaching Is and What It’s Not&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;That’s why coaching young adults in livestock judging has been 
    
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        .What’s the secret to his coaching success? He says there’s no curriculum to teach you how to be a livestock judging coach, it’s a lot of learning as you go and caring about who you coach.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Coaching is 80% what’s in your heart and 20% what’s in your mind,” Hoge says. “It’s really believing in the young people who are involved in your program. It’s reaching out and knowing their goals, interests and expectations.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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        Livestock judging is a very inexact art, he points out. It is not a science, it’s a skill developed over time that is subject to the opinion of someone else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It’s important the student feels good about themselves at every step of their development,” he says. “It’s about inching along and making progress.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When it comes to coaching kids to excel in livestock judging competitions, Hoge believes in helping young people finish strong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It’s not a question of where you start, it’s a question of where you finish,” Hoge says. “That has always been the mindset I have instilled in our student judges over the years. It’s one of the real values you can take with you in life.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;When You Step Out into the Ring&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;There’s no shortage of ways to use the skills developed judging livestock and describing them, Hoge adds. For many young people he mentors, their end goal is to judge a livestock show.&lt;br&gt;
    
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        “I remind young judges that every show is important, regardless of how small it may be,” Hoge says. “If there are two head of livestock at an event, that’s a livestock show. Go give it your best.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As livestock judging has grown in popularity and more contests have popped up across the country, the level of talent has grown, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I often tell our younger judging generation that, believe me, no one is interested in how smart you are and how poor their livestock are,” Hoge says. “They’re interested in your positivity, how you work with the youth, and how you make sure every youth involved in that show felt they had a fair look and an opportunity to feel good about their project and themselves. I don’t know if we have enough of that today.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He reminds young judges to stop and take a breath before they step out of their vehicle when they arrive at a show.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Ask yourself, ‘Why am I here?’” Hoge says. “The smartest thing you can do as a show judge at a county fair, and I’ve judged many, is study the atmosphere as you walk to the show ring. When you walk into that ring and meet the superintendents for the first time, that awareness of the atmosphere will provide a pretty good handle on what the show is going to be like.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The most important thing a show judge brings to any event is their opinion and comfort in knowing what they are looking for in a champion. Although judges can only use what’s brought to them to evaluate, knowing where you want to finish is necessary, Hoge adds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The little things matter, he says, from how you speak to people working in the ring to how you connect with the crowd. Judges have the opportunity to serve as another bridge between the showmen and their projects and the spectators.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“You can’t expect the urban sector to understand the care and management people put into their livestock or how great of a life their show livestock have,” Hoge says. “When you judge or show livestock, make a commitment to do things right and always be a voice of positivity in the industry. Be proud of what we do.”&lt;br&gt;
    
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         to learn more about his perspective on the misconceptions people have about the stock show industry today, what he’s most proud of in his life, teaching students for 55 years and counting, and how he anticipates the livestock industry changing in the future.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Your Next Read: &lt;/b&gt;
    
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